Saturday, April 25, 2009

This whole airline section is a mess


the list boxes offer a far more expediant and effective way of looking up airline information by country.... I tried!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.172 (talk) 18:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your input - I would suggest you read the comments above where it has been suggested that we link to List of airlines of foo and not to navboxes. A page full of navboxes is, in my opinion, not a good way to go. Not sure why you think it is a mess, is it wrong, not complete or you just dont like it? MilborneOne (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIRPORTS has a related page: List of airports. That page would be enormous if it just listed all airports like this page, so they've turned it into a disambig page, with links to a variety of list pages; List of airports by IATA code (which is in turn divided up into 26 pages by alphabet), Category:Lists of airports, etc. I think that sort of thing would work here. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Any further thoughts in dividing this page up? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree we should create List of airlines of foo and refer out to them as well as the other lists listed at the top of the page. MilborneOne (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I have created List of airlines in Iran, and I see that MilborneOne has created List of airlines in the United Kingdom. I am currently working on the Chinese airline list, and will take on board the Japanese list after that, and then will get the CIS airline lists done. Perhaps other editors can also take a few on board, but advise what lists will be worked on here, so that others aren't working on the same lists at the same time as others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Russavia (talk • contribs) 17:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, I'll pitch in too. One question, is it "List of airlines in..." or "List of airlines of..." ? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 23:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I created List of airlines of the United States. This section was big and I moved to its own article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 12:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I also created List of airlines of Canada page. This section was very big from this article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 12:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I created List of airlines of Germany earlier today. This section from this article was a medium size and I moved it on its own article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 01:42, 26 April 2008.

the list boxes offer a far more expediant and effective way of looking up airline information by country.... I tried!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.172 (talk) 18:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your input - I would suggest you read the comments above where it has been suggested that we link to List of airlines of foo and not to navboxes. A page full of navboxes is, in my opinion, not a good way to go. Not sure why you think it is a mess, is it wrong, not complete or you just dont like it? MilborneOne (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIRPORTS has a related page: List of airports. That page would be enormous if it just listed all airports like this page, so they've turned it into a disambig page, with links to a variety of list pages; List of airports by IATA code (which is in turn divided up into 26 pages by alphabet), Category:Lists of airports, etc. I think that sort of thing would work here. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Any further thoughts in dividing this page up? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree we should create List of airlines of foo and refer out to them as well as the other lists listed at the top of the page. MilborneOne (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I have created List of airlines in Iran, and I see that MilborneOne has created List of airlines in the United Kingdom. I am currently working on the Chinese airline list, and will take on board the Japanese list after that, and then will get the CIS airline lists done. Perhaps other editors can also take a few on board, but advise what lists will be worked on here, so that others aren't working on the same lists at the same time as others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Russavia (talk • contribs) 17:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, I'll pitch in too. One question, is it "List of airlines in..." or "List of airlines of..." ? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 23:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I created List of airlines of the United States. This section was big and I moved to its own article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 12:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I also created List of airlines of Canada page. This section was very big from this article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 12:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I created List of airlines of Germany earlier today. This section from this article was a medium size and I moved it on its own article. -- ApprenticeFan (talk) 01:42, 26 April 2008.

Split sections

An IP user has added a request to split out Canada, China and the United States, would appreciate if he/she could add something to the talkpage on why they think they should be, thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 17:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I added a request to split United Kingdom to a single section. The sections of Canada, China, United Kingdom and United States are too large and the size is too big. -- 12:47, January 7, 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.197.90 (talk)

If the split article was going to have more detail or a table comparing them (size, # of aircraft, passenger numbers, etc.), I'd vote yes, but as it is now, I think it would create confusion to separate them out. (Then we have to debate what the size cut-off for splitting the lists out is and make sure we're fair to all other countries, etc. More trouble than helpful.) cluth (talk) 22:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Sort of this is what I was thinking. It already exists, but it's different than splitting out the plain list, as the list includes minor airlines that aren't on this page. No need to duplicate what's already there, and the article titles could get confusing (actually, I would vote to move the article I linked to to "Comparison of large North American airlines" or similar). cluth (talk) 23:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

OK I would agree it is to large, just dont agree that splitting of the big countries would help. Users can use the Category structure to find airlines of each country. It could be split into Asia/Europe/Africa etc but even then it should not be more than a simple lists. It is just to help users find articles and should be kept simple. Nothing wrong with adding links to a see also section to articles with details like the Largest Airline in foo type stuff. MilborneOne (talk) 23:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Please refer to List of airlines in Ukraine, List of airlines in Serbia, and List of airlines in Russia. I actually Afd'ed the Ukraine and Serbian lists, using the same line of thinking about categories, but the community at large believes these structured lists are preferable over simply lists. Therefore I have no problem with ALL countries having their own lists, as it can also be a useful article development tool --Russavia (talk) 11:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I think Russavia has a good point it might help develop redlinks, should this article just be a link to each List of airlines of foo articles ? MilborneOne (talk) 12:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Although I am converted to the idea of Russavias about links to airlines of - I do not think the inclusion of random navboxes is the right idea! I have removed them pending discussion . MilborneOne (talk) 13:09, 20 January 2008.

Russia

Is their a reason why all the russian airlines have been removed and replaced with just a link? MilborneOne 21:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Is it to shorten the list? Probably to make it easier to download the page so it doesn't take so long.
I was wondering, why is russia under "Europe", not "Asia"? mathwhiz29 23:08, 19 June 2008.

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Photos


Anybody know why this list is turning into a photo gallery ! - I think most them can be removed. Any comments before I delete the majority of them ? do we need just one or two for each continent ? this article is large enough without photographs that dont really add to the value. MilborneOne 11:16, 25 April 2007.

North America Stolen

Anybody know who has moved North America and South America into America when this is a list of airlines by continent ! (presumably they will come back and correct the heading links! MilborneOne 22:52, 5 February 2007.

AJ Air of Malaysia?

I never heard about AJ Air before. Last time I was in KL, the only airlines operate out of KUL are Air Asia and MAS. And if this airline did exist, it should mention in news, but I couldn't find anything about AJ Air in news. I think this is just another vandalism. Please remove it.141.213.66.173 06:32, 19 November 2006.